
04/22/2025
In my spare time, I've been adding goldens into Retriever Database from my new future puppies' line I put a deposit on. Almost the entire pedigree needs built. (14% complete on the mothers side)
Today during lunch I was adding goldens on the grandmother's side. For 6 generations I added names of goldens that barely had a b-date and AKC #. Then I bumped into
AFC Gunnerman's Coin of Copper OS FDHF
(Pictured Below)
10 generations back on the mothers side. He's in retriever data.
I added his birth, death date and owner. He's inbreed with low ancestral loss. Here's the kicker and what I was gambling on by buying this pup before I had the pedigree built. I did a pedigree analysis on him. There's not a single Holway golden in his pedigree. YES! I finally found a AFC golden in a pedigree without any Holway goldens or other common ancestry in the pedigree. My hope/goal is founder balancing. If I can find "GOOD" genetic variants directly from founder genes, we have an amazing opportunity to preserve and reintroduce them in the future into a female that has not yet been born. Only conceived through my UK, CAN, US and genetic plans I have now. If this works, in 6-7 years I hope to have the most genetically diverse field golden while retraining traits, longevity and conformation. I have all the genetics except a no-name gun dog pedigree from no-where USA. Perhaps this new pup will help?
https://retriever.pedigreedatabaseonline.com/en/Gunnerman-s-Coin-of-Copper/analysis/18751/i
COI and AVK 10 generations:
Coefficient Of Inbreeding (COI): 18.04%
Ancestor Loss Coefficient (AVK): 15.04%
Jefferey Bragg - https://seppalasleddogs.com/seppalakennels/jeffreys-articles.htm
Consider Outcross Matings - Essay
"The great majority of dog breeds have been bred within a completely closed studbook for sixty to a hundred years or longer, with little or no fresh genetic input throughout the entire period from breed foundation to the present. In most cases the stud book was opened for a year or two, a small number of founders, often closely related to one another, were registered, and the stud book was then closed. Thereafter, only dogs descended from the founders could be registered. And for those sixty to a hundred or more years, artificial selection, random drift, bottlenecking and other forms of attrition took their toll of whatever genetic diversity was present in the founder group. It is exactly as though a bank account had been established with a single initial deposit (the genetic diversity of the founders), with no further deposits permitted; meanwhile bank fees and direct debits (diversity losses from drift, selection, etc.) chiselled away at the balance. It is a sure and certain recipe for bankruptcy.
Similarly, many individual bloodlines have been treated in exactly the same way, bred in relative genetic isolation from other bloodlines -- except that in this case additional deposits are at least allowed, in the form of bloodline outcrosses. Therefore each breeder probably ought to consider the desirability of locating and using a true outcross within his or her own breed (unrelated to one's own stock for at least ten to fifteen generations) at least once and to integrate the resulting progeny into one's kennel bloodline.
This cannot be done uncritically, outcrossing just for the sake of outcrossing. Some bloodlines might be an outcross to your own line, yet be worthless for the purpose. Generally, lines that come from the same ultimate foundation, but contain less diversity because they have been bred in a closed stud book for more generations, or have been heavily selected for cosmetic traits, will tend not to yield useful results."