GypsyRoyal Vanners

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**Click on the ABOUT to read why we set up this pa Welcome to the Gypsy Royal Stud page.

This page has been set up to promote the Gypsy Royal Stud of NZ. Beside their awe-inspiring beauty; these horses are a wonderful breed that are capable of doing anything you request of them. They are a smart and willing breed that will perform any task because they are devoted to people. They love pleasing people and will try harder than any other breed of horse. All around the world these lovely

horses are working in dressage, western pleasure, English, trail, jumping, driving, barrel racing, and as pleasure riding horses. Most breeds of horses develop as time goes on and different types start to emerge. Dennis Thompson the founder of the GVHS (Gypsy Vanner Horse Society in the USA) says, “History tells us that breeds change or why would there be two Morgan horses, why doesn’t the Quarter horse look the same? And the list goes on.”

There are two types of conformation when it comes to Gypsy bred horses. There is a heavier more draft type build. These horses are designed for pulling wagons or carriages. There is a new type of Gypsy that is emerging. This is the riding type. These horses are more refined and built for riding. The riding type has a longer stride that is more flowing in their movement. This is much more enjoyable to ride compared to the high knee action of the carriage type horses. As a testament to the breed Pam Fowler Grace 80+ time USDF champion, gold medalist and 2008 Olympic contender rode The Gypsy King and she had a very high opinion of him. Pam was so taken by The Gypsy King’s abilities that she believes he could achieve the Grand Prix level of dressage. The number one driving team in North America for 2001 were Jasmine and Esmerelda.” Both of these horses were Gypsy Vanners. Also Gypsy Vanners have been known to win cattle working competitions. Whatever type of Vanner/Cob you are looking for astute buyers should remember the following. 80% of the horses that Gypsies raise are not a breed. They are a type of horse called trade horses or knackers horses. The harsh truth is that these horses were bred for the meat market in Europe. Until you develop an eye for the breed, the trade horses will fool you. Trade horses look relatively similar but have other inherited characteristics, which often include smooth legged horse breeds. Smooth legged genetics will reduce the feathering, change the temperament and often result in a less magical look. The “traders” most commonly have an unproven lineage and lack the wow factor of the true Gypsy Vanner/Cob breed. We are very supportive of preserving the rare Gypsy Vanner Horses that the Gypsies selectively bred. Our mission is to preserve these well protected and coveted bloodlines and in doing so bettering the breed itself. As this page develops it is hoped that there will develop a better and clearer understanding of this magical breed and in particular how to differentiate between the commonly grouped ‘gypsy horses’ and the selectively bred Gypsy Vanners/Cobs, in an effort to reduce the useage of these inferior horses for breeding and selling to unsuspecting buyers and at the same time diluting the purity of the true breed.

Gypsy Royal Absolute Perfection, daughter of The Lion Prince and GB The Kings Savannah. Strong Vanner bloodlines flowing...
14/04/2025

Gypsy Royal Absolute Perfection, daughter of The Lion Prince and GB The Kings Savannah. Strong Vanner bloodlines flowing through this lovely filly who has turned into one of my best riding horses. Abbey has excelled at trekking, hunting (jumps full wire), carriage driving, cattle working, Western Showmanship, Horsemanship, Ranch and Trail, liberty, CTR, and devoted mother to several adorable foals. Anyone from a child or nervous adult to an experienced rider can jump on and enjoy a ride. Abbey is living proof of the versatility, safety and steady temperament of a true Gypsy Vanner Horse. Here is what we breed for at Gypsy Royal Stud.

19/03/2025

Coloured Dressage Cob Titan’s Paint Shines at Danish Dressage Championships! 🌟

The Danish Dressage Championships were treated to an exceptional performance this year by a truly unique competitor – a coloured dressage cob who stole the spotlight! This beautiful cob, with his distinctive colour pattern and athleticism, proved that you don't have to conform to the traditional dressage image to succeed at the highest level.

Despite being an underdog in the competition, this coloured dressage cob showcased incredible elegance, power, and precision in every movement. With fluid transitions, stunning extensions, and a relaxed yet focused demeanor, this cob was a true testament to how breed and colour diversity can bring fresh energy and excellence to the sport of dressage. 🐴✨

Key Moments from the Championship:
🏅 A strong entrance in the arena with a bold and confident trot.
✨ Displayed incredible balance and carriage, excelling in the canter.
🏆 Earned a high score from the judges for his collected work and engagement.
🌈 Proved that a coloured cob can be just as competitive, if not more, than traditional dressage horses.
This performance serves as a reminder that dressage is not only about conforming to old traditions but embracing diversity, talent, and passion from all types of horses. The coloured cob brought an undeniable spark to the arena and left everyone watching in awe of his abilities and the beauty of his unique coat.

Big congratulations to the rider, team, and everyone involved in this wonderful achievement! 👏 Let’s continue to celebrate the diversity of horses in the world of competitive dressage!

History of the Gypsy Vanner Breed.......Part 3I hope you are enjoying revisiting some of these bits and pieces that help...
17/03/2025

History of the Gypsy Vanner Breed.......Part 3

I hope you are enjoying revisiting some of these bits and pieces that help us identify the Gypsy Vanner Horse.
Yesterday, we learned that Edward Hart discovered that “while the Gypsies can tell you a great deal about their horses, they had no studbook and no breed society.”
We also learned that within the population of colored cob type horses the Gypsy people were building there was a portion of that population that could be considered the basis for a “type breed”.
Then we learned according to Dr. Phillip Sponenberg and Dr. Donald Bixby that while a “type breed” can serve several purposes it does not serve well as a genetic resource.
With all of that now in place it was the mid 1990’s, and now in this reporting I want to share two parallel stories that will further add insight to how these horses were beginning to be noticed.
My work had taken me and my family to Bitburg, Germany in 1995 where I was a school administrator for one of the military dependents’ schools. We lived in a small village off base, and located about two blocks from our house was a horseback riding facility. My youngest daughter was twelve at the time and wanted to take lessons. Little did we know that her interest would turn our lives upside down. It would be there at that riding school that we would first meet the Gypsies’ horses.
While we were busy meeting these horses there, over in Wales another story was taking form. Dennis and Cindy Thompson, an American couple from Ocala, Florida had been to visit a Shire farm. On their way back to London Cindy noticed a little black and white horse in a field as they drove by. She asked Dennis, “Did you see that little horse?” He said that he did not, but in a minute or two he asked “would you like to go back?” and she said “yes.”
Upon their return the little horse’s attention was alerted and when they got out of the car and closed the door, he came running over to them. They followed the fence around to the barnyard where they met a British farmer who told them he was keeping the horse for a Gypsy.
When Cindy asked him if the horse was a cross of some kind, the farmer said that he did not think so, because the Gypsy had a group of mares that looked just like the little stallion.
Now, let’s go back to Germany for just a moment. My daughter and I sat in the audience at the riding school for a special presentation. The back door of the arena opened and a horse like nothing I had ever seen before entered being ridden by the riding instructor’s young daughter. The horse was strikingly unusual, he was bay and white, and the pattern was almost as if someone had let Picasso loose with paint in the horse’s stall. He had an abundance of mane and tail, and his feet were feathered which made him appear to float as he carried his young rider through a series of patterns. I believe I was more mesmerized than my young daughter as there was so much about this animal that I could not explain in my own mind. He generated a series of questions that I have spent the last thirty years searching for and recording the answers.
Now back to that farmyard outside of London. Cindy Thompson stood there feeding the little black and white horse a carrot while the questions formed, was this horse a cross? yet the farmer said he didn’t believe he was. If indeed the Gypsy who owned him had mares like him, it might be worth going to see them.
This set Dennis and Cindy Thompson on a multiple year journey to try and find answers to the questions the horse created for them. By the time they had tracked down the little horse’s owner, and traced the stallion’s ancestry, they had met more Gypsy people and sat at their campfires just like Edward Hart. With the same curiosity and fascination as Mr. Hart they were amazed at the knowledge these people had of their horses, more importantly they could share how they had over time made breeding choices that had given them herds of coloured cobs, some of which possessed a set of traits that those outside of the Gypsy culture were noticing. What were those traits? Why were outsiders, those who were not Gypsies, now interested in the Gypsies’ horses? Why would this have been important?
In Part Four we will begin to explore the answers to those questions. Come back and join us then. I hope you are enjoying these posts as much as I am enjoying sharing them with all of you.
Have a wonderful weekend with your beautiful Gypsy Vanner Horses!

Photo is the beautiful Lion Prince residing here at Gypsy Royal Stud. Prince is one of the few stallions left by the famous Lion King and I believe the only Lion King son in Australasia. A fine example of a Gypsy Vanner!

History of the Gypsy Vanner HorsePart TwoIn Part Ones’ history post we learned according to Sponenberg and Bixby as well...
11/03/2025

History of the Gypsy Vanner Horse

Part Two
In Part Ones’ history post we learned according to Sponenberg and Bixby as well as other equine and animal population specialists that a “type” breed does not serve well as a genetic resource.” Why would that fact be important to the non-Gypsy horse enthusiasts who noticed these coloured cob type horses the Gypsies were producing in the 1990’s?
Well, they really liked these horses. I can say that with an affirmative answer as I was one of those folks. We liked those horses so much we wanted to know how the Gypsies had created them, and we wanted to go further and find out if there was a genetic base that could be captured for the purpose of “breed recognition” followed by “breed identification” and finally “breed preservation”.
The reality was that the Gypsies had not done nor were they interested in trying to accomplish any of those steps. Remember their herds had been the product of “personal preference”. They simply bred what they liked within the parameters the culture had collectively agreed upon following the harsh confiscation of their horses during the war periods in the European theatre, those being a smaller horse which had resulted in the cob, and the piebald pattern the result of desiring a broken coat making the horse undesirable for military use.
If you managed to show up at one of the Gypsy gatherings where they showed off their horses, you noticed the variety of cobs rather than the consistency in those populations. Please understand that is still the case today.
Remember in 1993 Edward Hart was trying to figure out how to better understand the riding cob that had become so popular in England. His book covers colored horses, all breeds, all types, all sizes. The Gypsy’s little cob just joined the ranks with all of those. He was fascinated by the fact that the Gypsy men who seemed to be producing the most desirable ones, took great pride in being able to orally recant the lineage behind a lovely stallion or mare. Hart thinks that is truly remarkable, to the degree it caused him to wonder why they had made no effort to begin a breed society or studbook.
It was this reality into which Dennis and Cindy Thompson stepped, it was this reality I came face to face with when I began asking those pointed questions about my “Bandit”.
“Bandit” was so truly special I wanted to know if it could even be possible to replicate him. That is exactly what Cindy Thompson pondered as she fed “The Log” a carrot on the day they met.
So what would you need to replicate those horses?
Well, you couldn’t let them remain at the development stage of a “type breed”.
Why? Because such a population lacks the genetic stamina to replicate itself over time. The genetic base is simply unstable. To stabilize that critical base, you must begin a purposeful effort to identify and build the genetics with the horses whose phenotype and ancestry, will support the direction you wish to go to build the base for what can become “a standardized breed”.
Let’s go back to our experts who tell us the following: “the concepts behind “standardized breed” are the main ones used for most breeds.”
Why say that you might wonder?
Well, if you recently enjoyed the Westminster Dog Show and fell in love with the Giant Schnauzer, a rare breed, and the beautiful “Monty”, then you get it.
The next question for Cindy and Dennis, the next question for Edward Hart should have been where are the Gypsies’ herds that are in the process of standardization and are they going to move in that direction or should we help with that in order to save the horses that had created a new following in the horse world?
We owe a debt of gratitude to Dennis and Cindy Thompson for taking on this monumental task.
This was going to be one of the most difficult populations of animals to capture and further develop for a variety of reasons that have been tremendous obstacles:
a. Cultural differences; Romani, Irish Traveller, British, Irish, American
b. The onset of the internet.
c. The population was a landrace exhibiting a variety of types all sharing a common ancestry.

Yet the Thompsons made the decision to try. In 1996 they established the first ever breed society and began the first ever studbook for any horse that had ever been bred by the Gypsy culture. That breed society is the Gypsy Vanner Horse Society.
Between 1996 and 1998 they imported two stallions and fourteen mares and presented them for the first time as Gypsy Vanner Horses at Equitanna in Kentucky in 1998.
It was a beautiful beginning, but tragedy would be just around the corner.
Join me tomorrow as we further unpack the history of the Gypsy Vanner Horse.
Joyce M. Christian

Photo is GRS Cushtis Last Kiss for Sweet Cindy by Cushti Bok and out of GG Coco Chanel. This lovely mare lives here at Gypsy Royal Stud and has royal Vanner blood all through her.

Gypsy Royal Vanners are proud to have two of our progeny win Champion Ridden and Reserve Champion Ridden plus Reserve Ch...
07/03/2025

Gypsy Royal Vanners are proud to have two of our progeny win Champion Ridden and Reserve Champion Ridden plus Reserve Champion In Hand. We would like to congratulate Karyn Morris and Emmy Maxwell on their success at HOY yesterday. Karyns horse Gypsy Royal Princes Royal Prize aka Baggins, had a clean sweep winning all his classes and Champion Ridden Gypsy Cob 2025. Emmy and Gypsy Royal Lion Heart aka Bugsy took home Reserve Champion In Hand and Reserve Champion Ridden. Well done!

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