02/01/2025
Very interesting. I to have noticed a pattern over the years in the context of when a horse will yawn. As one example, any horse I’ve trained that’s had problems around mounting and the mounting block, I have noticed they tend to yawn incessantly once they are finally able to stand quietly next to the block. I’ve always perceived such behaviour to be an indicator that these horses do this when they anticipate pain/discomfort of some sort, as it usually happens in the quiet waiting time, that that gives them the opportunity to react to what is about to come (someone getting on them).
The pain/discomfort could be anything from ill fitting tack, ulcers, muscular problems, a horse who is anticipating being ridden in a way that creates too much pressure and not enough release, a horse anticipating being ridden in a way that creates brace and tension (as brace and tension does not feel good!), or even just a horse who has had someone continuously mount them with an incorrect mounting technique, so they now associate mounting with discomfort due to that. I don’t think I’ve ever perceived yawning to be a positive thing in the work that I do… I know I’m working along the right lines when such horses yawning becomes less and less in the time I’m working with them. If it does not decrease with time and disappear altogether, I would then advise the owners to delve deeper into what could be going on in the body…
Here’s a throwback to a popular post I wrote a few years back on this topic. Make sure to read through the comments to, as there is a lot of insight from some well respected professionals there.
https://www.facebook.com/share/14zcS6qjKU/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Confusing signals ??
Thought I would reshare this from a few years ago as I like to update anything new to add.
Processing, calming, releasing, relaxing, tired, sleepy are all words that you as an owner might hear throughout a session with your horse, be it training, bodywork etc
But are we using the words to casually without ever taking the time or study to understand the complicated and subtle signals that belong to the language of the horse, remember humans for alot of horses may have led to stressful encounters, they have a great memory so we are often interpreting the feedback they give and often it's passed around information rather than studied information
And we need to ask the questions however uncomfortable finding the truth may be for only when we are aware can we further our knowledge in helping the horse
As someone who has worked mainly with positive reinforcement for the past 20 years, watching the horse is part and parcel of how I daily interact with my and other horses, and mainly I would see these behaviours around what I considered a more stressful time for the horse eg feed time etc in fact I watch the foals now and they are still unsure of me so lots of yawning and w***y dropping will ensue as they know feed is coming and wariness so stress twofold. I was never satisfied with the answer of processing or releasing tension I wanted to know processing what and who or what caused the tension???
And horses do get stressed and have to like every other animal release that to allow the levels get back to normality in fact in times of high stress eg running from something their stress has to go up to a certain level to be able to regulate back down (again how many horses are worked in such a way that they never have the chance to come back down)
So we need to distinct these behaviours as on the lower end of the scale its mostly self soothing and on the other end of the scale dissociation or tuned out.
We often say anatomy and biomechanics are top priority but if we include behaviour as a priority for if your end goal is a yawn and not the question why that happened in the first place The you will forever be focused on the ending and not the reason why
And I am not saying its all bad but what I am saying is its not magic if a horse starts yawning two minutes after I have walked in the stable I am well aware I may be the cause, if a horse is incessantly licking the owner or a salt lick, then I know they are still worried about me, if a horse starts staring off into the distance I know they are trying to dissociate from the situation they are in...I am aware that my work however much I want to the horse to be a part of it Sometimes I may make them a little uncomfortable it makes sense as I am asking them to change the way they have been stuck for sometimes a long time
We have many studies out there now with clear signals and their reasons and I like everyone else wanted to believe that the horse had the problem and the solution, but I never even bother to aim for a yawn nowadays and funnily enough the minute my focus was away from that goal I hardly ever get one from a horse and if I do I don’t make a fuss but also reflect on what I have maybe done to get such a reaction, for knowing could help the next horse
I have put plenty of videos of my own horse who was very nervous of people display all the signs leg scratching, lowering the head, looking around, licking chewing and these are behaviours that tell me I need to step back and when you think I am already maybe 50 yards away so now think of horses held on the end of the leadrope , their personal space is so big we are often taught they must not come into ours yet we never give them the same courtesy
So we have to be realists , we have to be aware we could be the reason sometimes, if we take a step back and then the horse yawns was it the work you did or was it the step back that took the pressure off. If we come from a place of knowledge and understanding then we can begin to effect change
Feedback from the horse has so many interpretations and my opinion may differ from yours and that’s OK we are all own our own journey but a horses face does not hide what they are feeling and we have to follow the science and the new studies rather than the ramblings of the 80,s guru horsemen we have to keep moving forward for the better of the horse