10/16/2025
When I started breeding 6 years ago, I was 15 — a kid who loved science and animals. I was excited to learn and do things the right way. But instead of support, I met adults in their mid 20-40s acting like children — gatekeeping, gossiping, and trying to discourage anyone new. I was simply brushed off saying I shouldn’t breed because I was in high school and “financially unstable.”But I’m strong-willed, and when I set my mind to something, I follow through. I wasn’t going to let a clique stop me.
6 years later, nothing has changed. I recently came back in September after a break from breeding in last Christmas. Wow....The same hypocrisy. The same pettiness. The same deceptive behavior. The same bullying and attacking — now to the point where there’s even a rumor about me planning to ship imported hamsters in ceramic jars to save money. Are you serious?
There are 2 problems here and it all stems from hypocrisy!
1. You don't condone lying or deception - yet you lie and get moles into discord serves and group chats to find dirt on other people and then within your own community begin to gossip and foster a sense of toxicity. Every time you have had breeders slide into a server or groupchat ,that is disceit. If you can't even fix your own actions and problems why the hell are you blasting other people? Because you have control and power from the large club and association name that you built? Thats absolute wild BS. Sending moles to find dirt on people is no better than adopting a hamster from a breeder with another identify because you're not being honest. So fix yourself before you begin your irrational attacks. Before you go around attacking people and spreading rumors that we used terra cotta pots to ship hamsters, check yourselves and fix yourselves otherwise you are hypocrites (You already are). Im not perfect but I don't go around claiming im perfect and that Im the only one who can breed hamsters. All the times you stooped down to a low level and been petty - you know it exists. Maybe you don't know it was petty and low because it is such a routine for you now.
2. You don't hold your own breeders to the same standards. For example, the recent import - why is it that the breeders in your circle can import from European breeders with poor cage and housing and the exception is made for awesome and new genetics and type??? Anyone in North America sourcing from someone who merely you haven't heard of or don't approve of would get bashed and banned? You don't approve of small cages yet your own breeders use small cages for rescue animals. Why does Holdmen Haven Hill and other breeders get to bypass the rules set by your own breeding community? Just because they've been in the community for a really long time? Why do you get to breed pet store hamsters and not get blasted for - simply because you have a large social media following? Why do you get to breed hamsters with poor conformation and poor temperament (screaming hamsters) and get away with it like nothing has happened?
Many of these breeders claim to stand for honesty, credibility, and accountability, yet their actions tell a very different story. They call people out when they’re outside their circle, but when one of their own makes a mistake, it’s somehow excused.
At the end of the day, no one is perfect. I’m not perfect, and I don’t claim to be. I’ve made mistakes and learned from them. If you want to argue about the alleged website problems — I’ve already apologized and made it clear it was not intentional. If you want to argue about acquiring breeding hamsters — there was no written agreement restricting breeding, which is something the breeder should have made explicit - that is a breeder's responsibility... If there’s no written or verbal agreement, no mention in messages, and nothing documented, then there is no breeding restriction. I have since stopped breeding that line and now only work with my own lines acquired through importing.
I love hamsters and animals deeply. I would never harm them. I breed because I love caring for them and working toward colors and patterns I enjoy. And yes, I’m strong-willed — when I have a goal, I pursue it with determination. I did not breed rescue hamsters – they were from local breeders because the “big-name breeders” refused to help me begin breeding hamsters.
What’s happening in this community, though, isn’t about improvement or accountability anymore — it’s about control. Certain breeders seem more interested in dominating conversations and tearing others down than in supporting the growth and well-being of hamsters or newcomers. Maybe it’s because the “big” breeders with large followings feel untouchable and don’t have to face criticism themselves. People need time to learn and grow. No one enters a hobby as an expert — everyone starts somewhere. But the environment that this clique of breeders has created doesn’t nurture growth or curiosity. It punishes mistakes instead of guiding people through them. It doesn’t teach — it tears down. It’s cutthroat, not educational.
Look at what happens when someone posts, “I want to breed hamsters,” on Reddit or Facebook. A sea of comments floods in: “You can’t breed hamsters! You need to wait 2 years! You need more money!” While those points may have merit, does this truly create a learning environment? Absolutely not.
People within the CHA who choose to remain silent say: “They’re all paranoid because they all talk s**t about each other, they all have posts pinned to their profile defending themselves from allegations someone in their own group probably made about them”
You talk about honesty, yet you have moles inside other breeder circles’ Discord servers just to dig up dirt and gossip about people. How low can you go?
And while you preach “ethics,” you allow unethical behavior within your own ranks:
Hamstery A bred hamsters under the recommended age and re-bred the same female only 6 weeks after her first litter. The dates are right there in the posts — do the math. Hamstery B kept such high numbers that they even considered switching to a rack system — the same system they publicly condemn. Hamstery C constantly talks about breeding for excellent temperament, yet recently adopted out a screaming hamster for free — one that later had to be returned. Maybe life was busy, but if this were any other breeder, your group would have told them to stop breeding altogether. Ethically bred, well-tempered hamsters don’t scream; that’s a clear sign of stress or deeper issues. Hamstery C also admitted to breeding pet-store stock, justifying it as “test breeding for genetics.”
I have to rebut this because I am so sick of the denial. You all deny the rumors of yourselves not gatekeeping, but can you honestly say everything you do and practice is truly not gatekeeping?
LOOK at the numbers. LOOK how many people are in [Unnamed discord server] versus your own NAHA Discord and Facebook group. People didn’t just leave — they were PUSHED away. They came to the other side because it became a refuge — a place where they could belong without being belittled or judged.
This particular Discord has grown rapidly because it welcomes those who were driven out or harassed by your circle. Dozens of breeders have come forward with similar experiences — stories of hostility, unfair treatment, and blatant double standards.
And before you try to pivot the argument to “who has better care,” at least have the decency to treat people with respect. Because that’s where it all starts — with how you treat others. You can preach ethics all day long, but if you can’t show basic respect to the people who are trying to learn and grow, then you’ve failed the very values you claim to represent.
The reason people are drifting away to the other side of the community isn’t because they “don’t care” or “don’t meet your standards.” It’s because you’ve made them feel unwelcome. You’ve shut them out instead of guiding them in. By doing that, you’ve prevented them from even having the chance to learn about good breeding ethics — the very thing you say you want to protect.
Even members of your own inner circle are leaving because of the negativity. One long-time breeder quit after she was criticized simply for working with someone outside the clique. And it’s not an isolated case. You can keep calling me out — you’ve done it so many times before — but it’s not going to stop me. I love hamsters, I love genetics, I love caring for my animals. My hamsters are loved and well taken care of, and that’s all that matters.
This is the last time I'm addressing this issue, it is petty, low and not worth my time to deal with. The only advantage you have is your old age and some social media following just because you've been breeding for longer.
