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Vicky Robain Dressage Vicky Robain BHS AI and EET III classical
Dressage trainer based in Portugal. I have a focus on correcting equine posture and biomechanics .

Qualified Equine Body Worker with experience as A Veterinary Technician at RVC Equine Referral Hospital .

27/05/2025
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This makes a lot of sense
04/11/2024

This makes a lot of sense

Many people are surprised to find that pain is rarely an animals highest priority. `Humans also will endure magnanimous amounts of pain, and if not connected to trauma, the experience will not have a lasting effect.

What does happen when an animal is in pain and forced to do a job against its will? Well that is trauma.

Trauma creates a broken system of social engagement and the animal or person will now ONLY have the primitive defense mechanisms of flight/fight or freeze which makes them 'difficult'

Problem is, taking away the pain, DOES NOT now repair this system and the non painful being will continue on being difficult until the mammalian social engagement system is repaired also.

There are a lot of ways to help horses and other sentient beings find their way back to the emotional homeostasis that goes along with feeling safe.
I have worked on emotional regulation with my horses with Tara Davis through zoom and the results have been life changing for my herd.

Most of MY work addresses both systems which is why it is so effective !!

Did I mention my Nervous System Seminar has received RACE APPROVAL !!! Cant wait to share more about how to optimize performance using the nervous system in 2025 !

Love to see this Vets page and posts, so refreshing to see a vet that understands classical training and the need for co...
20/10/2024

Love to see this Vets page and posts, so refreshing to see a vet that understands classical training and the need for correct posture before power . Highly recommend following her page !

ENGAGE THE SLING BEFORE YOU DRIVE FROM BEHIND

baby race horse getting thoracic sling engagement 😊😊😊🧡🧡🙌🐴

You can see how in the before picture this horse appears collapsed into the ground. His feet are splayed and chest is wide and soft and looks like it is falling into the ground. This is called ‘columnar loading ‘ it means that the horse is loading into the ground like a building, it is the opposite of ‘tensegrity’ which implies a balance of the compression elements giving you suspension and recoil. If your not using your tension elements and just start collapsing into your front end the only way you can really hold yourself up is by tensing through the elbow and thus splaying your front feet.

This baby is 1 year old, never been ridden and already is collapsing into the front end and is losing the ability and desire to engage and lift the thoracic sling.

There is no pectoral activation in the before. He is wide and collapsing in front. For a race horse this is a posture that will make him prone to injury because as he fixates this way it will be more and more difficult for him change and get his front end out of the way.

In the meantime those folks that don’t believe in spinal flexion of the thoracic spine will insist on driving into this braced, blocked, fixated front end that is now being stabilized by the elbows that will externally rotate and brace and a activated brachiocephalicus muscle which will further contract trying to stabilize the neck trying to prevent further compression as the hind end is driven into a front end that is locked down and collapsing into the ground.

I learned in vet school that when there is much opposing discussion about things it usually means none of the answers are correct.

If you cannot lift and engage your thoracic sling so that you have the ability for suspension and recoil as in tensegrity please do not think that driving into it is the solution. If you want your horse to feel like a motor boat you have to have the lift first and then you can drive into it.

Yes you need drive but the road must be open

If you don’t have lift the drive will cause more compression and collapse, creating more dysfunction.

Does that make sense ?

So the answer is your need lift for the drive to have a place to go otherwise you just drive into a brace.

The horse on the right has an engaged thoracic sling. This only took about an hour and this particular little fellow still had a lot of restrictions that will need follow up. But it’s a start - he can now get his front end out of the way allowing for hind end to come under instead of around.

He will be able to push off the ground instead of collapsing into it allowing triceps activation and development.

He will be able to open up his rib cage and breathe deep fully expanding into his diaphragm and creating internal lift to his back. His waist will lengthen, lumbar spine align and psoas relax creating movement to the pelvis and softening the angle so the hips now in alignment can push back at the ground with their full power.

All this in an hour.
All this from re training your nervous system out of dysfunction into function
Lift your sling to lift your back.

Please don’t drive into your horse if he cannot engage his sling and definitely do not back these horses up !!

Long but worthwhile read and open lense on the topic …
24/07/2024

Long but worthwhile read and open lense on the topic …

So, when Charlotte (Dujardin) was in London 2012 Olympics with Valegro, she got my attention. Because Valegro was the first competitive dressage horse I personally saw in recent memory, in recent records, compete and win without an abundance of overtly obvious calming signals and signs of stress. Valegro did show stress, lots and lots of it. But in an environment to his left and right, horses showed stressx100000, and he showed stressx100, he appeared relaxed by comparison. Not relaxed according to what I prefer and try to practice. Putting myself in the shoes of an other, I saw an exception in Charlotte then. I do not see an exception in her now.

So she got my attention.

In subsequent years, when Valegro (Blueberry) retired and I saw her riding of other horses, it became clear to me that Valegro might have been an exceptional animal and an anomaly, and then digging a little deeper into personal research, I tried to find quotes from Charlotte herself talking about her champion horse.

A person always tells you exactly who they are, if we believe them.

I heard a rumor, that Charlotte described Valegro as "Hard Mouthed". I am not sure if that is true. Because much of their press is glossy and idolised. Like this article, still on the FEI website, attributing Charlotte and Valegro to inspiring a whole new generation of dressage riders. https://www.fei.org/stories/sport/dressage/5-things-learn-charlotte-dujardin-valegro

So if a Gold Medallist is describing her champion horse as Hard Mouthed, what does this mean for the training process that horse went through when nobody was watching? I guessed, wildly speculated for myself, that Valegro might be a horse who tolerated more pressure, than perhaps other horses would. Perhaps a horse who was predisposed to working under an enormous amount of compression, without feeling emotionally off-kilter about it. And was therefore able to demonstrate high level competitive riding with her, without an abundance of signs of stress (not no stress at all, just drastically less than is typically seen in those contexts). And actually win. Valegro actually looked... sort of happy... with her. By comparison to the horses around them.

But in subsequent years watching her ride Pumpkin and others, I personally did not like what I saw. I saw too much of the modern, Continental Euro-Dressage culture in the horses body. I felt quietly she needed to listen more to Carl Hester, and less to the Continental Hyper-Mobile style that is so rewarded now across the board.

So in recent years I waned my interest in Charlotte, after initially feeling pleasantly surprised at how much I found an affiliate image in her public body of work that I felt I could... maybe, just maybe, enjoy watching and supporting.

Charlotte is currently under-going the effects of Cancel Culture. Cancel Culture is something I would like to cancel. Let us not throw the baby out with the bath water. Here is a competitor who demonstrated at the Olympics that once in a blue moon, 1 horse in a million could compete -and win-with a drastically minimised output of overt signs of stress. Charlotte showed that to us. She also popularised and brought into fashion the era of helmets in competitive riding. Before that, it was all tuxedo's and top hats. And now helmets are popular and normalised at upper levels. She was the first to really popularise that. She, together with Carl, also used her enormous platform to advocate for the ample turn out of their horses. They even hack their top horses on country roads. At a time when some competitors horses never saw light of day, or had a chance to roll in a field, or play with their buddies, this person was returning from world championships, and instead of posting a photo of her ribbons and trophies, would post of video of turning the champion horse out in a field with their buddies.

And then we see a video of her abusing a horse with a whip. In my opinion, the video is egregious. Her actions in the video are horrific. They appear well practiced. They appear to be perfunctory, like she had done them before. There is NO EXCUSE for what she did. It is bonafide abuse.

But there are explanations why. And understanding WHY is crucial for us right now if we are to avoid the pitfall before us. The pitfall of making camps on the left and right, while we hurl abuse at each other. Let us have enough self restraint to pump the breaks on our outrage, and understand why. We must, if we are to use this moment as a crucial turning point in the development of horse welfare.

I have made mistakes with horses. So have you, yes you. I have done things with horses out of frustration. So have you. Nobody is immune to that. All of us have sinned. But I have never whipped a horse like was shown in the surfaced video. I have never done that. To the laughter of those filming? Sickening. And the inaction of the rider. And the entitlement of Charlotte.

And yet, I do not agree that now is the time to cancel Charlotte.

It would not occur to me to blame the victim. The timing is perhaps suspect to speculation. But perhaps the timing has nothing to do with it. I know what it is like to wait years, 10 years in fact, to blow the whistle on my abusers. I have abusers who I am still waiting for the right time to blow my whistle on them. Now is not the time. I waited for a time when the groundswell of support was such that I could blow the whistle and not stand alone. Perhaps Charlottes whistle blower waited until they had enough support around them, so they COULD be brave. I do not know. But we must not make this about the whistleblower that is the lowest hanging fruit here today.

Let us make this about WHY the top competitor in our industry, so completely failed. Why we cannot sanction almost any competitive riding in 2024 through an ethics lens? And why we need to stop cancelling peoples mistakes, and instead learn from them. So we never-ever- repeat them.

Two things can be true at the same time.

Someone can be abusing horses. And in the same breathe, make great choices for them. It is the human-problem. We have a heavy, clever, abstract brain that needs another 50 millions years of evolution to refine this new bio-computer and de-bug some of its glitches. The human brains most common glitch in my opinion, is the glitch of incongruence. Say one thing. Do one thing. Next minute contradict that entirely. It is almost like somebody left the paddock gate open in the human psyche and all the horses got out. Running chaos across the road. It is the reason why we so wholly engage in acts of abuse, torture, murder and systematic annihilation of others. Just like cancel culture is the annihilation of others we abhor, the same way abusive horse training is the annihilation of the horses well-being in real time. Be careful, outraged or not we may be, be careful to track the threads of aggression and hostility through our bodies, lest we make hypocrites of ourselves.

To use hostility and aggression and lack of listening to others and lack of compassion of others to cancel another, is the same human trait of lack of listening, hostility, aggression and lack of compassion shown to the horse in Charlotte's scandal. To weaponise the same weapons of the person we cancel... is by definition incongruent. The best way to no longer sanction the sort of abuse Charlotte engaged in, is to eliminate those same urgings from ourselves... wherever they show up. Yes- even when directed at Charlotte.

The human brains most common glitch in my opinion, is the glitch of incongruence. Our brains have not fully re-connected recent complex brain developments into our body, our ancient wisdoms, our empathy and our kindness.

I mean, we can. But it takes a Herculean effort to do so. In order to live a congruent life, one must be actively anti-social to the mainstream. Because mainstream living requires incongruence to fit in, survive and be successful.

Charlotte, like tens of thousands of top equine professionals, is part of this problem. Stuck in a system where she must force performance, force compliance, by any egregious means necessary, so that she can maintain her safety, her success, her image and her acceptance. Imagine being an Olympic Gold Medallist, training someone elses "lesser" horse, and the horse is not doing it the way your Valegro did it for you. Imagine doing that in front of an audience.

"I saw Charlotte at a clinic and actually, she couldn't get the results. It must be Valegro, not her"

Such nasty phrases are common place and directed everyday to all trainers, everywhere. Trainers are under enormous pressures to prove not only competency, but competency RIGHT NOW, and the means necessary are not important. This is a dynamic I work hard everyday to counter. It is so hard to do.

If we cancel Charlotte now we risk the following
1. Not learning from this. WHY did the TOP COMPETITOR in that industry still fail at horse ethics 101. If she is failing, we all are.
2. We risk covering up the positive impact she did make towards helmet culture, turn out culture and showcasing, 12 years ago, a relaxed horse. Even if he was one in a million. She still showcased that.
3. We lose an opportunity to understand the popular culture of training and how we need to double our efforts to reform it.

We actually need new parameters of competency. New parameters of success. We don't need to cancel Charlotte. She will get what is coming for her.

Cancel Culture in my opinion is the epitome of a diversion tactic. It is also hostile, and aggressive. And eye for an eye and we are all blind. Someone grappling with their own conscience in what they did or are currently doing to horses, can redirect their internal turmoil onto another and heap their own self loathing onto a scapegoat. They get an adrenal hit out of it. They feel better about themselves. The Germans call it "Schadenfreude" direct translation is Crappyfriend, or happiness at the misfortune of others. It is a toxic trait in my opinion to cancel an other.

We cannot talk a storyline of holding space for misbehaving horses, for troubled horses, if we cannot hold space for misbehaving and troubled people.

I see someone like Charlotte whipping a horse the way she did and I want to throw up, but I also acknowledge how troubled she must be. Troubled and damaged, before, during and after the abuse. not an excuse, I hold no sympathy for her. But damn, how damaged must someone be, to do what she did. How damaged must someone be to believe they can cancel another. Deny their existence, like a death. The same way horses are denied their existence.

Be careful, outraged or not, to track aggression patterns through our bodies and stop them in their tracks.

I have been saying for months:
"S**t is going to hit the fan this Olympics. We need to be ready to catch the people who are abandoning ship"

Olympics hasn't even started yet, and here we are. S**t-fan-ship.

24/06/2024

On Lightness,
Lightness has always been part of my equestrian life. However, the meaning of lightness has considerably evolved with the advancement of knowledge. True lightness is the outcome of true balance, and true balance is a forward concept. Restrictive hand actions, such as half halt, are more likely to create lower cervical arthritis than balance. Lightness is the subtle management of the forces from the hind legs’ propulsive thrust forward through the thoracolumbar and cervical spine. When the hind legs’ thrust is adequately managed, lightness is not simply the contact on the bit; lightness is efficiency. The horse uses the decelerating and the hind legs' propulsive phase more efficiently. Nancy Deuel observed in the late 1980s that the horses executing the best flying changes increased the contact duration of the hind legs during the stride preceding the flying change. Later, it was explained that the horse increased the decelerating phase of the hind legs’ during the stance, stored more elastic energy and controled the forward shift of the body over the forelegs. The gain of power allowed greater amplitude in the flying change without the rush on the forehand. It was the age when science discovered phenomena that mechanical thinking could not apply. One cannot mechanically increase the decelerating activity of the hind legs, not by touching the horse’s legs or increasing the pressure of the rider’s spurs. Increasing the hind legs decelerating activity is a decision of the horse’s mental processing and physical intelligence that we influence, creating conditions likely to direct the horse’s mental processing toward efficiency.
I have learned thousands of impeccable theories, but I have also ridden thousands of horses suggesting otherwise. Many around me submitted the horse to the impeccable theory and felt they respected tradition. In my mind, they were in a cult. Colonel Danloux wrote, “Respect for tradition should not preclude the love of progress.” For me, the love of progress is the love of the horse, which includes questioning impeccable theory when the horse suggests otherwise. Michelle, Betsy, and I often discuss new scientific findings and agree that we only know a little of what the horse can teach us. Listening to the horse, I questioned beliefs that science contradicted years later. I would have damaged the horse, devoting my faith to the dogma. I often did not have a better answer. Still, the horse told me that as impeccable as the theory might look, the evolution of knowledge will soon modify the understanding or expose its falsehood.
Jean Luc

11/06/2024

This is a great visual to show why as an Enlightened Equitation Teacher I don’t teach turning your shoulders / hips in the same way many do.
Of course it’s fairly exaggerated the movements/ amount of twist the rider is showing but it clearly demonstrates the negative impact it has on the horses spine/ ribcage movement

I am very happy with our progress recently .. I have been working hard to improve Fihenzas balance and relaxation aiming...
15/05/2024

I am very happy with our progress recently .. I have been working hard to improve Fihenzas balance and relaxation aiming to build a more positive relationship to collected work which she finds difficult.

Several changes including:
• Vet checks and bodywork/ physio work .
• Ulcer supplement
• Change of hay from Rye grass to meadow hay ( always had ad lib but didn’t eat much before)
• More groundwork based sessions
• re induced some clicker training/ positive reinforcement training into our work both from the ground and ridden .
• Introduced the use of a neck rope to help her understand not to curl up /go btv or push her chest forward and brace when things are difficult.

Today I had some help from Tana Ericson who I really respect as a trainer . Tana is trained and licensed Legerete ( Philippe Karl) and also uses reward based training so we are really on the same wavelength and able to discuss the different solutions to problems with an open mind 🙂

So still far from perfect but I’m happy that we can now get some collected work including Piaffe with a more relaxed expression, less tail swishing, better “sit” , improved spinal flexibility. We still need to develop strength to take more weight behind and get those front legs more vertical to the ground / less V shaped but I’m very happy with our progress and especially Fihenzas general facial expressions and relaxation.

Sooooo true
15/03/2024

Sooooo true

Owning a horse is a choice—a privilege. Behind every healthy and happy horse stands a team of dedicated professionals, who are often complained about because their services cost money.

Let's remember, their expertise is not a luxury; it's a necessity. It's not about making horse ownership affordable; it's about providing the best care possible.

Appreciate the value they bring to your horse's life.

Owning horses is a choice - your choice!

Great well done PC Australia for educating about rather than normalising this behaviour
28/02/2024

Great well done PC Australia for educating about rather than normalising this behaviour

Allowing a horse to rush his jumps (or simply rush anywhere) will become a habit quickly and could become quite scary or dangerous. The rider, with the help of their coach, needs to go back to some basics.

The horse might rush because he is worried, or he has simply learned through repetition that this is how to jump, because he was never corrected.

Ideally you want him to travel in ‘cruise control’ like a car, until you ask him to slow down or speed up. That’s called self-carriage and it is what we should all aim for.

Some people think the first choice to get a horse to slow down and lower his head is to use a stronger bit or other equipment, but that is like getting rid of the smoke but leaving the bushfire burning.

Here’s some things to try first:

1. Practise your stop response before jumping; riders learn this in the certificate manuals but ask your coach if you are not sure.
2. When a horse rushes he loses rhythm. To get the rhythm back, try riding in a slow trot and try a metronome to keep the beat; correct the horse whenever he speeds up or slows down.
3. Try placing a pole on the ground one stride or half a stride in front of the obstacle, so the horse slows in front of the jump. Your coach will know the best distance.
4. Go back to doing polework to settle the horse and get the rhythm back. *
5. Don’t allow the horse to build up speed; try turning onto a fence from a circle or jumping from a steady trot until he realises what you want. (And don’t forget to reward his efforts with a wither scratch).

*There’s a Discipline of the Month on Polework on the PCA website.
https://ponyclubaustralia.com.au/sports/discipline-of-the-month/

13/02/2024

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